REPAIRING - plastic damage

gatecrasha · Post by **gatecrasha** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 10:38 am

i have spoken to a international sales rep, from loctite.. asking him regarding repairing bike plastics, e.g. fairings,guards.etc etc etc.... he states that '2 part loctite plastics superglue' is not suitable for this purpose READ-ON THOUGH....... i dont accept anything without questioning !!!! on question of repairing and then painting the repair, (hence product not exposed to contact with water... HE STATES perfect for useage...... i have repaired a side piece on my fzr1000. this has been in use throughout the winter, exposed to:- rain salt frost and snow (god i hate fair weather riders) and can confirm that this stuff is great for using simple to use, low cost, (mine cost £4 - approx $<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"> NO paint reaction at all when spraying over, repair appears to be stronger than surrounding (undamaged) area's hope this helps you guys save a bit of cash..... gatecrasha

dragracer1951 · Post by **dragracer1951** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 11:07 am

I'll have to check it out, I have a bit of repair to do Jim<img src=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/ ... Cheers.gif ALT=":cheers">

ExupElvis · Post by **ExupElvis** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 11:38 am

3M Duramix, amazing stuff. Bonds like epoxy, can be built up like Bondo, sandable and paintable. Available in different flavors (cure time/flexability) from body shop supply outlets. Check back threads from Barneyfzr600, he knows that body repair stuff well, and his recommendations have worked well for the fairing repairs I've done.  cvhjkthisEdited by: <A HREF=http://p072.ezboard.com/bexupbrotherhoo ... upElvis</A> at: 3/23/05 10:20 am

gatecrasha · Post by **gatecrasha** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 12:30 pm

another tip that i have heard of and tried out myself is:- cracks and splits in the plastics, 1- open the slit as far as possible (without causing further damage) 2- place into the split 'toilet paper' (ass-wipe paper) sorry but all nations will know what this is now) <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"> 3- loosen pressure and let both parts of split come back together. 4- place drops of 'loctite superglue' onto the paper in the crack, 5-capillary action will take superglue right into all parts of split/crack... REASONS FOR USING METHOD:- mormal superglue is not that good at adhering /bonding these types of plastics, it will bond other things to plastic really well, WHAT YOU HAVE DONE THAT CREATES A BRILLIANT BOND IS stuck plastic to paper to plastic.. laminated using superglue..... its an old method of repairing damage on plastic radio control model parts........ works damn well on bikes too....... although im totally impressde by the 2pack plastics superglue.... gatecrasha <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat">

Post by **FZRDude** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 12:36 pm

Neat idea. <img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/ ...  There are some who call me........Tim? Director of Entertainment <a href="http://eddieandthecruisersmc.com" target="top">Eddie & the Cruisers</a> 1994 FZR 1000

gatecrasha · Post by **gatecrasha** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:38 pm

FOOTNOTE TO INITIAL LISTING:- i forgot to state on previous initial listing that the super glue adhesive is sold under the name of:_ "LOCTITE SUPERGLUE-super plastix" i have glued two pieces of fairing plastic together as a little test piece, i have found that the adhesive appears to soften surrounding plastic slightly during curing, once set (left for approx 12hrs) i have disected by means of cross sectional slicing, (impressed at my technique yet!) (and yes i used a medical scalpel <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"> ) i saw an area larger than the area of the split that appears slightly different in colour shade. each side of splitapprox 0.5mm / 0.0195 " upon gently 'stabbing' the dark area and uneffected area's i can conclude that the repair whilst not brittle at all, is noticably harder/less spongey than original plastics. this has appearance of a molecular type bonding??? i dont know for sure but im damn impressed with the stuff, DISCLAIMER:- these are the rantings of a madman (I MUST BE I RIDE A GENESIS) all investigations carried out in my kitchen , this is less than scientific enviroment, (YOU AINT SEEN THE STATE OF MY TOASTER) whilst not being officially qualified to speak on cyanoacrylate and its uses/applications i am however a professional engineer (totally qualified in field) and yes i am curious/nosey and it worked so well i jyust had to de-construct to have a look. yes i believe the best part of owning a maccano set is taking the constructions apart, heck-if it aint bust -it dont need fixing

barneyfzr600 · Post by **barneyfzr600** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:45 am

Good thing about the 3M Duramix is that when it cures, it flexes just like the original plastic!<img src=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/ ... odpost.gif ALT=":goodpost"> Freelance Bodyman I be ridin the Cali Bay Area '88 & '89 FZR1K BOTH ARE ONLY HALF NAKED NOW!!!

gatecrasha · Post by **gatecrasha** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:00 pm

ok further product testing carried out in light of the non-believers <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"> and for my own piece of mind before final ly finishing of an expensive paint job, i have an R1 '00-01' rear tail piece, this having been scourced from ebay after being involved in accident, i have repaired the area's that were damaged, 2 (horizontal) splits to rounded part of side on tail, 1 split across the font seat area, and 2 splits from rear of front seat up and onward joining where rear pad locates, and yes i brought this intentionally, what a bargain, if your capable of repairing. the test tha t i have done involved supporting tail on rear of bike and standing upon it, actually i have walked between front and rear of seat location report NO visible damage to repaired area's. no stress visible at all, no creaking/cracking etc, just like a new one now im not trying to state that this is best thing in the world but its a viable option thats practicle to use in day -to-day use, very simple and very inexpensive. gatecrasha - <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat">

cromwelluk · Post by **cromwelluk** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 3:28 pm

Hi been repairing some plastic’s and I have found a very simple and effective method A soldering Iron !!!!!! Just melt the parts together use a bit a correct type of plastic for a filler file down any excess Repaired as new Easy to insert a patch etc for a hole just cut & shape Like the pro’s plastic welding but on the cheap Get a big wattage iron to heat up quickly to make and blending in easy and you can work quite quickly I could not believe it was so easy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

gatecrasha · Post by **gatecrasha** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 3:38 pm

hi cromwelluk lol i used to do that lol i got sick of the stink, (well truth is i got sick of the mrs moaned about it.......) hence my quest to dicover a less smellier solution, really! try this plastix superglue, trust me its useful. i carry the 2 tubes in tail (just incase i need a quick fix) soldering iron couldn't do that... not unless you have a few hundred miles of extension lead where abouts in uk are you?? im in tamworth this way gatecrasha -<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat">

cousin it · Post by **cousin it** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 6:40 pm

I've used Plastech several times now to repair bike plastics, on several occasions replacing missing sections of the bodywork, for example 2 mounting points on the front mudguard on my yzf after my G/f reversed the car into it less than 30mins after I'd collected it from having the forks rebuilt <img src=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/ ... ng_sad.gif ALT=":sad"> . A friend of mine who builds custom bikes made a fairing for a streetfightered Busa from bits of different panels from different mfr's and that has survived very well given the battering it has received. the main thing to make sure of when making a repair with plastech is that you make a good fillet to make a strong repair, a dremel and a small grinding stone make that part easy work.

cromwelluk · Post by **cromwelluk** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:57 pm

Hi Need do do some repairs to my Carbon hugger mounts Any ideas ? Crommie

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