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Brake upgrade for '87 FZR1000

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 5:13 am
by FZ911
Ok people,<br><br>I'm looking for advice for upgrading front calipers from my '87 FZR 1000.<br><br>My current calipers are sticking, so I planned an overhaul with new seals and dust boots. My local dealer informs me that they are $49 (Aus) a set, so I order 2 sets in order to do both calipers.<br>Go to pick them up today, and find that there are only 2 seals and dustboots in a set. Ie the 2 sets I ordered would only do 1 caliper.<br><br>We re-check the fiche, and find an error that says 1 kit required per caliper when it should be 2 (At this point I ask myself what were they thinking when a 4 piston caliper can be o'hauled with only 2 seals & dustboots)<br><br>Mr yamaha tells me they can get another 2 sets in ($196 total <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START >: --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/mad.gif ALT=">:"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> ), but I kindly tell him no thank you <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>So, if I'm going to spend $200, I may as well upgrade.<br><br>What will fit?<br><br>'89 FZR 1000 onwards 4 pot calipers?<br>'95 FZR 1000 6 pot caliper?<br>'96 onwards Thunderace/Thundercat/R1/R6 1 piece 4 pots?<br><br>What do you think will fit, and give the best performance?<br>What are some of you guys using?<br><br>BTW - I already have a 14mm master cylinder and braided lines.<br> <p></p><i></i>

Re: Brake upgrade for '87 FZR1000

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 6:47 am
by dragracer1951
I put R1's and Brembo snowflakes on my 95 with an R1 master cylinder...NOW I have brakes!!!!<br>Only thing is...Now I have to rewire it cause of the fire.....<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :sad --><img src=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/ ... ng_sad.gif ALT=":sad"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p>Jim <!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/ ... Cheers.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/ ... states.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>Hey Kid...Is my taillight working?</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p072.ezboard.com/bexupbrotherhoo ... cer1951</A> at: 9/12/05 2:17 am<br></i>

Re: Brake upgrade for '87 FZR1000

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 7:28 am
by FZ911
Does a '95 have USD forks?<br>Will these calipers bolt up to 41mm conventionals? <p></p><i></i>

Re: Brake upgrade for '87 FZR1000

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 7:45 am
by dragracer1951
there is a thread where I have pics of the conversion of my 95 with USD's , Tim's 94 with USD's, The centerline spacing is 100mm<br>I had to do some machining with a hand grinder to make them fit, They needed a little clearance to clear the forward piston<br>Not too difficult to figgure out <p>Jim <!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/ ... Cheers.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/ ... states.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>Hey Kid...Is my taillight working?</p><i></i>

Re: Brake upgrade for '87 FZR1000

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 8:29 am
by FZRDude
Should be a straight swap from what I remember. No mods required. <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/ ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:red;font-family:times new roman;font-size:small;">There are some who call me........Tim?</span><!--EZCODE FONT END--><br><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:white;font-family:times new roman;font-size:small;">Top Speed = Mach 0.197 or so... </span><!--EZCODE FONT END--> <br><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:blue;font-family:times new roman;font-size:small;">1994 FZR 1000</span><!--EZCODE FONT END--></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/ ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> </p><i></i>

Re: Brake upgrade for '87 FZR1000

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 9:20 am
by dragracer1951
Yea Tim...I think you're right. Only we who have the ultra cool USD forks have to have ours expertly machined by very cool and exclusive people.....<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>I think they bolt right on to them normal USU forks <br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :poke --><img src=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/ ... e_poke.gif ALT=":poke"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> (up side up)<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :poke --><img src=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/ ... e_poke.gif ALT=":poke"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p>Jim <!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/ ... Cheers.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/ ... states.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>Hey Kid...Is my taillight working?</p><i></i>

Re: Brake upgrade for '87 FZR1000

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 9:37 am
by ExupElvis
FZ911 - There was a post here from some time back about replacing caliper seals, I've looked through everything I could think of to find it, but it must be lost.<br> Anyway, one of the Euro guys found replacement caliper seals at a hydraulics equipment supply shop. They can be had in standard sizes.<br> It's risky, since it is a brake system and you wouldn't want to put in-compatible parts in, But seals were found for far less than Yamaha prices in that particular case.<br> I paid for a full set of new seals for my '92. It was a lot of $$ for what seemed like not very much.<br> If I was to do it again, I would certaintly try to find less expensive parts if I could.<br> Good luck, B. <p><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:blue;font-family:times new roman;font-size:small;">Genisx1AtYahooeyDotCommaMomma</span><!--EZCODE FONT END--></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p072.ezboard.com/bexupbrotherhoo ... upElvis</A> at: 9/1/05 7:41 am<br></i>

Re: Brake upgrade for '87 FZR1000

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 6:16 pm
by FZ911
Thanks everyone for your tips.<br><br>I looked through the old threads in the '87,'88 section, and found some answers to my question (should have done this first<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/embarassed.gif ALT=":o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> )<br><br>I did ring an auto brake specialist, and they assure me they will have seals that fit at about $6 each, but no rubber dust boots. I'll have to check out the condition of the pistons etc, then make my mind up as to upgrade, or re-seal....<br><br>Would be pretty cool to have monoblock blue spots on my Blue FZR though<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

Re: Brake upgrade for '87 FZR1000

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:02 pm
by FZRDude
You can get R1/R6 blue dots on ebay for about $40. Heck I just sold some to another member for just that amount. <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/ ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:red;font-family:times new roman;font-size:small;">There are some who call me........Tim?</span><!--EZCODE FONT END--><br><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:white;font-family:times new roman;font-size:small;">Top Speed = Mach 0.197 or so... </span><!--EZCODE FONT END--> <br><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:blue;font-family:times new roman;font-size:small;">1994 FZR 1000</span><!--EZCODE FONT END--></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/ ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> </p><i></i>

Re: Brake upgrade for '87 FZR1000

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:08 am
by FZ911
Installed some Thunderbox blue dots and EBC HH sintered pads today....<br><br>Bloody awesome. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rock --><img src=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/ ... ock_On.gif ALT=":rock"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br><br><br>[img=<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/9504 ... <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END-->] <p></p><i></i>

Re: Brake upgrade for '87 FZR1000

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:24 am
by jjs777
heres one thread that elvis mentioned...but elvis just hasn't learned how to search let alone lay off them banana sandwiches<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://p072.ezboard.com/fexupbrotherhoo ... <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Elvis Rocks! <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:steelblue;font-family:times new roman;font-size:medium;">-John </span><!--EZCODE FONT END--> <!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/ ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:blue;font-family:times new roman;font-size:small;"> <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/ ... cement.jpg" target="top">1995 FZR1000</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--></span><!--EZCODE FONT END--> <br><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:blue;font-family:times new roman;font-size:small;"> <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/ ... 00x600.jpg" target="top">1990 FZR1000</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--></span><!--EZCODE FONT END--> <br><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:blue;font-family:times new roman;font-size:small;"> <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/ ... resize.jpg" target="top">1990 FZR1040</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--></span><!--EZCODE FONT END--></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i></i>