Clutch assembly compatability between FZRs

orionburn · Post by **orionburn** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 7:41 am

Basically looking at replacing the entire clutch assembly right now. Basket is shot, boss is worn pretty good and need new plates & springs (see the clutch trouble thread). Bob (cvhjkdis) has got a set he's willing to part with. We wanted to check and make sure it would be a straight swap going from a 90s FZR to a 87. Looking at the parts fiche things look a lot alike. Does look like the basket stayed the same, but the boss changed somewhat along with the plates. Other than that everything looks the same. So, questions are: Will the boss still fit ok on a 87? If so, go with the original plate set-up or with the plates from the later FZR? Nate - 87 FZR1000 Have you seen my fairing?Edited by: <A HREF=http://p072.ezboard.com/bexupbrotherhoo ... ionburn</A> at: 2/21/05 8:21 am

dragracer1951 · Post by **dragracer1951** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:54 am

OK After a little investigation... the baskets are the same part number ( 87 and 91) I chose 91 just as an arbitrary year of the newer type the pressure plate,nad hub (boss) are not the same number and the bearing is the same number My thinking is that the new clutch part numbers are an improvment on the earlier parts and that if you used the later parts as a set (hub and pressure plate) that you will be fine as the bearing is the same. Unless Chuck D or Matt know otherwise? All of those parts are available through bikebandit also Jim<img src=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/ ... Cheers.gif ALT=":cheers">

orionburn · Post by **orionburn** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:32 am

That's what Bob was thinking. Made some improvements but otherwise the same set up. Though the boss is different, we both figured it would be straight swap. Guess I could always be the guinea pig and find out for sure <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"> Nate - 87 FZR1000 Have you seen my fairing?

FZR 1000 EXUP · Post by **FZR 1000 EXUP** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:52 am

I am takin mine to bits tonight, so if I can help with detailed photos, for comparison etc, then let me know <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> Yamaha FZR 1000 EXUP RU, 1992, Red/White/Black,Veypor On-Bike Datalogger, CarbTune II Remote Extension Kit, Streamline Wing Mirrors with Integrated Indicators, Goodridge Hoses, 2001 R1 Calipers, Kevlar Clutch, K&N Air Filter, Art Pro Series II Silencer, Factory Pro Emultion Tubes, SuperFlux Red LED Engine / Fairing Install, 16/48 Sprocket Conversion, On-Bike Digital CamCorder.

orionburn · Post by **orionburn** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:08 am

Thanks, Matt. Maybe a shot of the boss if you can. I need to get pics of mine yet (may try to today if I get a chance). I'll have to take a pic of mine still attached since I haven't had a chance to pull it off yet. I'll see if I can get mine up today and we can compare the two. Can't remember for sure, but Bob was saying the only difference may have been some extra holes drilled into the boss to aid in the chatter department. Or I could be talking out of my ass...who knows <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"> Nate - 87 FZR1000 Have you seen my fairing?

FZR 1000 EXUP · Post by **FZR 1000 EXUP** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:11 am

lol.. you got it mate, as soon as I drill off this fairing bolt that wont come off lol I will take pics <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> Watch this space cheers. Yamaha FZR 1000 EXUP RU, 1992, Red/White/Black,Veypor On-Bike Datalogger, CarbTune II Remote Extension Kit, Streamline Wing Mirrors with Integrated Indicators, Goodridge Hoses, 2001 R1 Calipers, Kevlar Clutch, K&N Air Filter, Art Pro Series II Silencer, Factory Pro Emultion Tubes, SuperFlux Red LED Engine / Fairing Install, 16/48 Sprocket Conversion, On-Bike Digital CamCorder.

orionburn · Post by **orionburn** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:21 am

Should have pics up later today of mine. Gonna borrow my friends digicam and head out to the house later this afternoon. Wanted to get some pics of my new forks as well to show off <img src=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/ ... ananna.gif ALT=":banana"> Nate - 87 FZR1000 Have you seen my fairing?

FZR 1000 EXUP · Post by **FZR 1000 EXUP** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:46 am

Mate check my post in Exup Thou section as I got a question I specifically need ExupJon to answer, but will post pics there if they help ya, if you want any specifics ask me on that thread, cheers <img src=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/ ... ock_On.gif ALT=":rock"> Yamaha FZR 1000 EXUP RU, 1992, Red/White/Black,Veypor On-Bike Datalogger, CarbTune II Remote Extension Kit, Streamline Wing Mirrors with Integrated Indicators, Goodridge Hoses, 2001 R1 Calipers, Kevlar Clutch, K&N Air Filter, Art Pro Series II Silencer, Factory Pro Emultion Tubes, SuperFlux Red LED Engine / Fairing Install, 16/48 Sprocket Conversion, On-Bike Digital CamCorder.

cvhjkdis · Post by **cvhjkdis** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:18 pm

I'm still waiting for any word from Matt, but maybe in this case the word would be ..................... ALWAYS EVERY TIME TRY IT IN NATES BIKE FIRST. Or something like that. Looks like we're the Guinea pigs this time, I'll just send the parts, If they work, they work. <img src=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/ ... ng_sad.gif ALT=":sad"> <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/embarassed.gif ALT=":o"> <img src=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/ ... ng_sad.gif ALT=":sad"> <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/embarassed.gif ALT=":o"> <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"> Bob. Straight up Geek

FZR 1000 EXUP · Post by **FZR 1000 EXUP** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:16 am

Hiya Cvhjkdis. I done me homework mate, check this thread : <a href="http://p072.ezboard.com/fexupbrotherhoo ... =808.topic" target="top">p072.ezboard.com/fexupbrotherhoodfrm24.showMessage?topicID=808.topic</a> I took it apart as far as I dare, and only having limited tools available I couldnt get the giant nut off at the end. What I did managed to do, was bugger the gasket so that went in the bin, and I have used some gasket sealer, it sets like glue, clear sealant and I have used that, I just started her up 2 mins ago, will see if she leaks now. On top of that, the bolts holding the clutch cover on, I aint got a small enoughtorque wrench, and I think I am on the verge of overtightening a few and takin the threatd out !>. Gulp !. lets hope this gasket sealant does the trick do I dont have to take it off again... <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/embarassed.gif ALT=":o"> Yamaha FZR 1000 EXUP RU, 1992, Red/White/Black,Veypor On-Bike Datalogger, CarbTune II Remote Extension Kit, Streamline Wing Mirrors with Integrated Indicators, Goodridge Hoses, 2001 R1 Calipers, Kevlar Clutch, K&N Air Filter, Art Pro Series II Silencer, Factory Pro Emultion Tubes, SuperFlux Red LED Engine / Fairing Install, 16/48 Sprocket Conversion, On-Bike Digital CamCorder.

cvhjkdis · Post by **cvhjkdis** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 6:53 am

Hiya Matt, I somehow knew you'd been into your clutch, but I hadn't seen the pics - so thanx for the link. A quick word on the parts descriptions - There are only three major castings in the clutch assembly - but probably a dozen different words for them - The Basket/Gear assembly is pretty hard to mistake - that's the piece the fingers break off of. The Boss/Hub assembly goes into the basket and indexes the internal clutch plate teeth - This is the piece that may be different between the Genesis and EXUP bikes. And the pressure plate/clutch cover piece that the springs go into - this may also be different as it is keyed to, and must rotate with, the clutch Hub - weather the assembly is engaged or disengaged. The one thing that has been verified so far is that the basket assembly is the same part# for pretty much all the Yami one Litre engines, but small differences such as trans input shaft length or Torrington bearing radial clearance may be different between the years, those are the questions I can't answer without a Genesis bike to look at. I appreciate any response to this, But I think we are down to trying to fit the parts into the Genesis bike to find out. Wish us luck! Straight up GeekEdited by: <A HREF=http://p072.ezboard.com/bexupbrotherhoo ... vhjkdis</A> at: 2/23/05 4:57 am

orionburn · Post by **orionburn** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:23 am

Well, let's get this ball rolling then, Bob. Honestly I think this is going to be a straight swap with no worries. Hit me up with a email with your paypal info and I'll get some funds sent your way. I got some new gaskets on order for the crank cover & oil pan, so no rush since it's going to be a week or so before I get them in. Once I have everything I'll get this bugger put back together and see what happens! Nate - 87 FZR1000 Have you seen my fairing?Edited by: <A HREF=http://p072.ezboard.com/bexupbrotherhoo ... ionburn</A> at: 2/23/05 5:23 am

dragracer1951 · Post by **dragracer1951** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:39 am

I THINK that even if you were a little long on the radial bearing that you could machine the inside of the hat (that's the pressure plate to you non dragracer types) to get the proper clearance Has anyone figgured the clutch plate airgap for this bugger? Jim<img src=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/ ... Cheers.gif ALT=":cheers">

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